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 Post subject: What Savage Dragon has to offer.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:56 pm 
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If yoube made your way to this thread, odds are you are well aware of how. Brilliant a comicbook savage dragon is. Either way I have a list of things that I get out of dragon that I don't see in any other books.

1. Author/reader interaction
Erik goes out of his way to do a letters page. He responds to emails with dumb fan boy questions. And he spends a lot of time on these boards. He doesn't have to. It probably doesn't drmatically increase sales. He just does it and that's awesome.

2. Best inks around
In my professional and analytical opinion there isn't a damn book, monthly or otherwise, that has a better inker. The inks also never get boring. Sometimes they are loose and others they are very tight. You can tell erik is having too much damned fun

3. Unexpectable
You never know which characters will die, what path dragon will choose or who will bang who. This comic sticks to no formula and nothing is out of the question.

4. Golden age characters
With the exception of kirby genisis I can't think of another book that features on a regular basis comic characters from years past. Also big props on not fucking with daredevils name. That's another topic for another day but I can't even read those countless titles that do.

5. Real time
No one has ever done a run this long (approaching 200 issues) in real time and kept the story moving.

6. Original characters
From cutthroat to horridus, open face to powerhouse, savage dragon has a slew of bad ass characters that were either created by a lunatic or a genius.

7. Values
Beyond the big boobs and guns erik hides messages for people of all ages. He tackles racism even better then recent black panther books. He is political and doesn't feel he must hide it because it may offend
you.

Lastly its a fun book that isn't trying to appease the stock holders.

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 Post subject: Re: what dragon has to offer.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:34 pm 
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Salvia wrote:
5. Real time
No one has ever done a run this long (approaching 200 issues) in real time and kept the story moving.

I always wondered if this accounted for the times when the books was late? If a few months pass between issue will that time pass in the comic?

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 Post subject: Re: what dragon has to offer.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:01 pm 
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Salvia wrote:
5. Real time
No one has ever done a run this long (approaching 200 issues) in real time and kept the story moving.


Judge Dredd and his 35 weekly years would like to have a chat with you citizen.

Now granted his status quo doesn't change quite as radically as Dragon does, but he's certainly in a different place then where he started as a character. Not that this diminishes this aspect of Dragon, just that there are others if you root around a little bit.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:29 pm 
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Jim Purcell wrote:
Salvia wrote:
5. Real time
No one has ever done a run this long (approaching 200 issues) in real time and kept the story moving.


Judge Dredd and his 35 weekly years would like to have a chat with you citizen.

Now granted his status quo doesn't change quite as radically as Dragon does, but he's certainly in a different place then where he started as a character. Not that this diminishes this aspect of Dragon, just that there are others if you root around a little bit.


Is it real time? Did 35 years pass in Judge Dredd?

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Bendrix wrote:
Jim Purcell wrote:
Salvia wrote:
5. Real time
No one has ever done a run this long (approaching 200 issues) in real time and kept the story moving.


Judge Dredd and his 35 weekly years would like to have a chat with you citizen.

Now granted his status quo doesn't change quite as radically as Dragon does, but he's certainly in a different place then where he started as a character. Not that this diminishes this aspect of Dragon, just that there are others if you root around a little bit.


Is it real time? Did 35 years pass in Judge Dredd?


Yes. Its was 2099 in Dredd's first appearance. Its is now 2135. And that date has ticked up one year every year for as long as Dredd has been published.

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 Post subject: Re: What Savage Dragon has to offer.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:39 am 
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reading Savage Dragon for me has always been like watching a kid play with his toys.

He does whatever he wants with them, cuz they're his.. and screw convention cuz he does it the way he wants to.. but these are his characters.. so he always makes sure to treat them like a treasured toy.. even when blowing their heads off... so there's always been a certain consistency enforced by Erik and Erik alone (well, now Gavin too) that we, the reader, appreciate.

course it doesn't hurt that Erik's also got this talent thing going for him too. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: what dragon has to offer.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:16 am 
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Jim Purcell wrote:
Salvia wrote:
5. Real time
No one has ever done a run this long (approaching 200 issues) in real time and kept the story moving.


Judge Dredd and his 35 weekly years would like to have a chat with you citizen.

Now granted his status quo doesn't change quite as radically as Dragon does, but he's certainly in a different place then where he started as a character. Not that this diminishes this aspect of Dragon, just that there are others if you root around a little bit.


Savage Dragon remains unique in that regard because it's a classical american super-hero book taking place in the contemporary world. I daresay it's easier to have characters pushing 50 or 60 in a sci-fi context, where you don't exactly know how long people live, what kind of preservatives go in their food, etc. This is not to diminish Judge Dredd in any way, but if Judge Dredd "counts", a whole lot of other books from various countries count as well. Heck, you could say that Dragon Ball beats them all since the characters in the book aged faster than real time, actually.

In other words : if Savage Dragon had been around in the late 70s, he would have met the Saturday Night Live cast and this story would still count. Whereas in the Marvel Universe, this story is now lost in limbo. On the other hand, Judge Dredd or Son Goku wouldn't even know who the Saturday Night Live cast was, because these kind of things are not part of their world.


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 Post subject: Re: What Savage Dragon has to offer.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:00 am 
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I think you're really over thinking this. 'Real time' is 'real time' regardless of whether it takes place in our time or not.
Interesting that you bring up Dragon Ball thou, as I was going to mention it as another example, until I realized that while it is a multi-generational story. It's not actually real time.

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 Post subject: Re: What Savage Dragon has to offer.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:46 am 
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Savij I love that.

Jim I think jay is right. In dredd we never see presidents we know, cities we know, and the same characters.vin fact besides dredd very little rwmains consistwnt ao its easier to give it a real time label. But yes I did forget that example

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So a story told in the future but following real time doesnt count because its not set in "real time"?

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