Official Walking Dead #99 Thread - Something to SPOIL!!

BryanT · **Joined:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:14 pm **Posts:** 192

Security Water Food wrote:

So now that Ive caught up with the posts in this thread...

I still feel that rick saw them and that's why his eyes were wide like that. It was an oh shit, they're still here. I don't think he planned to surround them, I think hes going to come up with a plan on the fly and come out on top.

i've been saying Jesus is Negan for a while too *high five wes*

Think about it..Jesus....the group is called "The Saviors." I mean come on!

I still think that Rick will be the one doing the gruesome killing. The murder of glenn, maggie, sophia, the unborn baby, or any other character minus rick, carl, michonne, and andrea would not be a big deal to any of us. Sure, we love some of those characters but they haven't played an important part in the book for a long time now. Nothing would really change if they died. Just like Abe's forced funeral. Nothing's going to change.

It's way too predictable to kill off Andrea so I think she's safe. Carl already almost died and it would make no sense to kill him now. Kirkman kept him alive for a reason so he's safe. Michonne needs to be around for the TV show so she's safe, and it's Rick's book so he is safe regardless of anyone saying "no one is safe" in this book. We all know Rick is safe..

There's really NO logical deaths that can really make a difference here, and so that leads me to believe the events will be the other way around. Our guys will be doing the killing and our guys will become the something to fear. Our guys will show new sides of their persona that we have not scene before that we might not be ready to accept.

At this point, and I'm sure I'll have to blame myself for this, but if anything less than what I just said happens it will be a HUGE let down. HUGE.

I agree if its just another wholesale slaughter of our characters its going to be a huge
mis-step for the series IMHO. My interest in the story will plummet.

BryanT · **Joined:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:14 pm **Posts:** 192

capuga wrote:

So I'm not one of those that have piled on Rick's so called bad decisions. I think the talk of Rick being a bad leader are overblown. But, damn, this one was stupid. Why leave the town basically undefended after you just saw there was a threat against it? Glenn and Maggie were leaving anyway, why not let them ask for assistance?

I've also been insisting for months now that Andrea was safe and all this foreshadowing of her death was just misdirection. Now I'm not so sure. It's looking pretty damn bad for her now. Kirkman is promising something gruesome for issue 100 and she seems like she's the most in danger and the one that would tug on the heartstrings the most. Really, really hope I'm wrong.

I think killing off any of the main cast would be a bad idea (Rick, Carl, Andrea, and Michonne). The biggest reason the series pulls people in so much is because you become invested in the characters. But none of the new people are made a big impact. Even Abe, who was in the book for a long time, doesn't seem to have been an emotional death for the fans. Shocking because he's a big name, but not emotional. So if you kill off the characters that people do care about, they are not going to be as invested in the book. Sure you can still tell a good tale about human drama, horror, and survival with almost any cast. But people won't emotionally care as much.

Semi-crazy theory for 100 - There is a traitor in the Alexandria group and Rick has figured it out. Leaving was just a ploy. He didn't tell everyone the plan because he's not sure who could be trusted. But his trusted few like those in the van and Andrea know. They'll attack the Neganites from behind and we get a full scale battle for issue 100. Not sure I believe any of that but it was a thought.

Agree with everything you said - and posted a similiar theory much, much later in this thread.

Security Water Food · **Joined:** Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:16 am **Posts:** 426

West3man wrote:

tyweezel wrote:

Rick definitely sees them on the roof over there. He looks too startled to just be afraid of the unknown and we clearly see the reflection of the rooftop.

I grant that the reflection., specifically of the rooftop, strongly suggests that Rick looked up there. But that reflection showed no people so that strongly suggests that whatever he saw was not a person.

but we know there are people up there. small details like that can be let go. He saw them.

maloney414 · **Joined:** Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:44 pm **Posts:** 83

BryanT wrote:

After the prison - if this is just another wholesale slaughter of characters we are famaliar with I'm going to be dissapointed - we've already seen that at the prison. What I would like to see is a wholesale slaughter of the attackers - that would be different. But after reading the review of the guy that has read it I don't know how he could be so shocked if the brutality is not directed towards the characters we care about. I fear a major stumble is about to occur with issue 100 - I hope I'm wrong

A wholesale slaughter of the attackers would NOT be different either.

Rick's group did the wholesale slaughter at the end of the "Fear the Hunters" arc.

BryanT · **Joined:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:14 pm **Posts:** 192

maloney414 wrote:

BryanT wrote:

After the prison - if this is just another wholesale slaughter of characters we are famaliar with I'm going to be dissapointed - we've already seen that at the prison. What I would like to see is a wholesale slaughter of the attackers - that would be different. But after reading the review of the guy that has read it I don't know how he could be so shocked if the brutality is not directed towards the characters we care about. I fear a major stumble is about to occur with issue 100 - I hope I'm wrong

A wholesale slaughter of the attackers would NOT be different either.

Rick's group did the wholesale slaughter at the end of the "Fear the Hunters" arc.

That was a small group that they easily defeated with no loss except for Dale who wandered off to die and was captured - not the type of war between two large groups/communities that they are building up for 100.

I go back to how stupid it would be for Rick to leave right now. His group has just humiliated Negans group twice in about 2 days and he has told the survivors to go back and basically tell Negan not only fuck off but we are demanding that you pay us tribute - Abraham is killed right outside their community and then he decides to leave?! Kirkman better have something better than a big slaughter of the residents at Alexandria while Rick and company are vacationing in the van dreamed up or TWD is about to jump the shark.

West3man · **Joined:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:25 pm **Posts:** 524

Security Water Food wrote:

West3man wrote:

tyweezel wrote:

Rick definitely sees them on the roof over there. He looks too startled to just be afraid of the unknown and we clearly see the reflection of the rooftop.

I grant that the reflection., specifically of the rooftop, strongly suggests that Rick looked up there. But that reflection showed no people so that strongly suggests that whatever he saw was not a person.

but we know there are people up there. small details like that can be let go. He saw them.

LOL

Small details like, when he looked up there, they weren't visible from his angle. Allrighteethen. My bad.

tripledouble · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:17 pm **Posts:** 182

i totally agree that rick going to hilltop at this juncture is a shit leadership move, implausible and could usher in a shark jumping massacre moment.

but lets say he doesnt have an outflanking in mind, didnt see the rooftop neganites and is indeed just going to the hilltop.

what could kirkman do in that scenario to salvage the story in your eyes?

tripledouble · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:17 pm **Posts:** 182

im thinking alexandria is attacked and euge and andrea take charge and lead a spirited defense until hilltop reinforcements return

BryanT · **Joined:** Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:14 pm **Posts:** 192

tripledouble wrote:

i totally agree that rick going to hilltop at this juncture is a shit leadership move, implausible and could usher in a shark jumping massacre moment.

but lets say he doesnt have an outflanking in mind, didnt see the rooftop neganites and is indeed just going to the hilltop.

what could kirkman do in that scenario to salvage the story in your eyes?

I'm not sure but the writing has been good so far - so I am hopeful that we will all be pleasantly surprised. I guess it would have to be something to completely reverse the agravation that we are feeling with the seeming stupidity of Rick at this point. If Rick and van comes back somehow before the attack at dawn and then Alexandria gets beat in a straight up fight at full force - I can live with that. But removing key characters in an "ark" (the van) and wiping out everyone else will just feel way way to contrived.

Security Water Food · **Joined:** Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:16 am **Posts:** 426

maloney414 wrote:

BryanT wrote:

After the prison - if this is just another wholesale slaughter of characters we are famaliar with I'm going to be dissapointed - we've already seen that at the prison. What I would like to see is a wholesale slaughter of the attackers - that would be different. But after reading the review of the guy that has read it I don't know how he could be so shocked if the brutality is not directed towards the characters we care about. I fear a major stumble is about to occur with issue 100 - I hope I'm wrong

A wholesale slaughter of the attackers would NOT be different either.

Rick's group did the wholesale slaughter at the end of the "Fear the Hunters" arc.

someone already mentioned it, but that was completely different. That was just a small faction of people. The Saviors are seemingly a community of their own. Similar to Woodbury, but possibly much more archaic and less organized. Rick's team has the resources to wipe them out.

How cool would it be to see Rick's team destroy them and then adopt some of the left over members who were only with them to survive? Then later one we can see one of those characters plot to upsurp rick. There's so much good stuff that basically writes itself if Rick takes out the Neganites.

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